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DaveMatthews · **Posted:** Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:13 pm

This is the discussion thread for the tower Keeper of the Magic Flame (1523)

Creator's comments for this tower:
Second member

DaveMatthews · **Posted:** Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:02 pm

The tower has been updated to version v2!

Creator's reason for this update:
fixed typo

DaveMatthews · **Posted:** Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:07 pm

The tower has been updated to version v3!

Creator's reason for this update:
another small typo fix

DaveMatthews · **Posted:** Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:55 pm

The tower has been updated to version v4!

Creator's reason for this update:
Changed first skill, improved model to look better than first member

EDIT: it didn't replace the screenshot D:

Nubz · **Posted:** Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:15 am

The 2nd and 3rd abilities are soooo bland in my opinion. I just think you could make him more interesting.

Edit: whoops sorry thought this was the first family member. Same applies to this guy though!

I usually give some suggestions, but I don't have a lot of time so I'm using the shotgun approach to quickly get my two cents into a lot of topics. When I have more time I'll help you think of something cool. Good work though! Like Glowackos said, this is a very refined first tower submission.

DaveMatthews · **Posted:** Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:51 pm

The tower has been updated to version v5!

Creator's reason for this update:
Reworked

Glowackos · **Posted:** Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:17 am

nice model and interesting rework, but i feel like there's too much going on now for a rare tower (it's a fine balance ;)). I like the synergy between twin disciples and twin flames, but i think the magma pulse is going a bit far for the rarity. I'd suggest either making this tower a unique family, or removing/simplifying magma pulse to something very basic, like 'this tower deals half of its attackdamage as spelldamage'.

stchaosknight · **Joined:** Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:53 pm **Posts:** 118

Hello,

just make it uniq perhaps increas the damage a bit (not much something like 400 or so) rework the ability factor.
This tower looks delicous. Do it

I think this has to be potential to be my fav. tower and a lot more will like him

And make the upgrade lvl then like owl or something like that.

Greetings

Chaosknight

cedi · **Joined:** Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:34 pm **Posts:** 2513

What are sourches? Each enemy damaged like that will take 20% more damage from all sourches.
Do you mean sources?

Also this tower seems to be a bit strong. I mean Twin Flames do scale through the attack damage and crit chance. If you pump all items and oils into this tower you can reach a attack crit chance of 80% and a spell crit chance of 100%+, which nearly triples the damage output through attacks.

DaveMatthews · **Posted:** Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:23 am

This is already the second member, so i could make an unique tower with two members. Would it be fine as it is as a unique?

edit: yeah...sources...will fix it soon

stchaosknight · **Joined:** Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:53 pm **Posts:** 118

Hello,

Spellcrit is caped at 80%. But yea I think half the crit chance would be better so he would still be strong ^^.
Perhaps reduce the aoe to 400. Still the idea is realy good.

Greetings

Chaosknight

cedi · **Joined:** Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:34 pm **Posts:** 2513

AoE of 400 is nearly non existent. I would be surprised if it hit more than one unit...

If you make it unique you should add a level bonus to both abilities which are missing one at the moment.

For the Explosion: Start 70% damage and 10% damage taken increase to 95% damage and 20% more damage taken on level 25 (just a suggestion)

For the twin flames: 100% to 110%, 90% to 100% or something like that, since the ability is weaker at the beginning (smaller chance) but gets very strong with only a few items/potions. == Only a small level gain.

der_kleine_Tomy · **Posted:** Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:20 pm

cedi wrote:

AoE of 400 is nearly non existent. I would be surprised if it hit more than one unit...

400 AoE is huge. If the tower attacks a unit at 500 range it nearly covers the whole attack range.

stchaosknight · **Joined:** Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:53 pm **Posts:** 118

Hello,

400 AOE is realy enough. When you reduce the cooldown. If not increase the AOE to 700 so it works well with the big cd.

Perhaps make a lvl depending aoe out of it . Soemthing like 375 aoe + 25 per lvl.

Yea built a lvl bonus into twin flames.

And as I said half the trigger chance so it is only crit. chance /2. The end result is only low chance to trigger at start but with full potions it would be 40% for both.

Or make it more complex and work on a formular where you include the crit chance + the lvl + a fix % so you can balance him from early to late game.

Something like he has a fix chance of 20% + 0,2% per lvl + 0,1875 per crit chance. So it will reach with 80% crit chance a Max chance of 40%

And for the smaller one make it 10%+0,2 per lvl + 0,125 per crit chance. So it reaches only 25%.

Greetings

Chaosknight

Nubz · **Posted:** Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:30 pm

I don't mean to be an asshole, but do you guys actually like this tower? It still seems boring. Kind of a ripoff of cedi's tower no?

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