This is the discussion thread for the item Spider Broach (356)

Creator's comments for this item:
New expensive uncommon item.

I don't think item quality fits with the theme of a wicked curse. I would expect a curse to weaken the creep somehow.

Mabye I should change the description then? I think the item quality fits the Silver Threads and Broach theme.

Yes, that would be fine.

i really dont think this item is worth 1250 gold. This item is roughly worth 1 master thief shroud which would be 540 gold. Now obviously buff placer is stronger then plane stat giving, but then you gotta factor in the 15% to proc. In other words, I really dont think this item should be worth more then 750, maybe even cheaper

The item has been updated to version v2!

Creator's reason for this update:
Description changed.

The point is a plain +item quality item works for one tower. This item works for all towers that attack/kill the creep. That's why I think its worth more.

then explain this mystic shell compared to plain staff, now once again this item is not damage giving, but its basically same concept and thier prices are almost identical

You've got to take into account the trigger chance. I'll look into it for this item. Maybe I up the item quality then.

Following Mystic Shell:

15% / 11% = 1.36 times better on 10% chance

15% chance would then be 1.24 times better (0.36 / 1.5)

If I compare it with Shadowfoot's Mantle which gives 45% for around the same price we get:

45% * 1.24 = ~56%

I'm upping the base to 40% and 1% per level so at level 10 it'll have 50% (slightly lower because shadowfoot is more expensive). At level 25 it'll have 65%.

The item has been updated to version v3!

Creator's reason for this update:
Update, see previous post.

This item is very good.
Do you know what it means if EVERY creep has +65% item quality (on level 25)!
The tower just needs to attack this creeps once, buff stay a few seconds.

I think it is much more worth than 1250g

you do realize i said that when this tower was like 20% item quality.....
also how does 1 attack = 65% item quality, when its a 15% youll be lucky for this to be placed on 3 creeps in a normal/mass wave.This item will really only shine on boss lvls.



also you should calculate items with tower lvls ~12-15 or something liek that, since that is how the gmsi or whatever calculates them.

just take a fast shooting low range tower or just use micro?
Like Ray Blaster, I buff EVERY normal creep.

im gonna ask you 2 questions

1) what does attack speed adjusted meen?

2)what does a 100% chance buff placer have to do with a 15% chance buff placer?


edit: o also when i said tower, i meant item...